David Webster: From Small-Town Theater To Netflix (Interview)

0:18ShareHello, welcome to Entertainment about movies, TV shows, and video games. My name is Hate with me at Minute. Hello. Mr. David Webster. How are you doing? Hello, hello. Thank you very much. I'm great. Thanks for having me on the show. Off recording earlier, this is like your second or third interview today? Yeah, it's my third one. But uh third but last one. Um you said the best for last one. I I uh I get winded just doing one. I couldn't imagine doing three, so uh I feel for you. And he forgets what we were recording recording about. So well I do have a life. So, Mr. Webster, uh I'm trying to figure out through our nosy detective uh mainly you know looking at your your IMDB and your your Wikipedia, you're like, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark.

1:15ShareTwenty-four years old. Uh you're right. Actually, you're de you're you're you're you got it. Uh I'm 25. Uh what day is it? Um one one week from today, basically. Um so uh I still have it. But you're you're still in the window. It's still still true. There you go. Well, happy early birthday. Thank you. So October, my son's an October baby, so there you go. You're all special. Little Halloween weirdos. There we go. Wait, one I said one week, one month. I'm I'm in photo. Okay, you're Thanksgiving weirdo. A different kind of breed. Yeah. Um so you got into acting when you were 12. Yeah. And uh was that something that you knew you wanted to do very early on, or is this more like uh you just were fascinated with

1:59Sharethe film industry and took a shot at acting and it worked out? Um I uh well when I was 12 I didn't really know what I wanted to do. I think I wanted to make Minecraft videos. I think that was that that was that was what I was thinking about when I was 12. That's still what I want to do. So yeah. Well, you know, it's not too late. Um do you stream? Uh I um Pardon me? Do you stream? No, I don't stream. Yeah. Um I you know, it might not be a bad idea. Um I I I I I game every now and then. I game every now and then. Um but but uh I um basically my mom put me into like a theater, sort of like a local theater. I'm from a small town in like northern Ontario, Canada. Um so uh there was like a local theater production there.

2:44ShareMy mom put me in it, and they were doing a production of Le Miserab, and I played Gavarrosh, and somebody there suggested to my mom that uh I do a sort of competition called Faces of the North, which uh which you know we did, and there was an agent there, and I got scouted. And I kind of just started working that way. And you know, we'd make the drive. I it's about um where I'm from is about like four to five hours away from Toronto. Yeah, some small drive. So we Yeah, exactly. So so we'd make we'd make the drive down sometimes like multiple times a week to like go to auditions and stuff in those early days, um, which uh which eventually chilled out as I kind of figured out how to do self-tapes, which is now the

3:24Shareindustry standard. But uh anyway, um it wasn't until I was 16 that I decided that I was like, okay, this is I think this is what I want to do for a living, or at least I want to be like involved in this world professionally, and that was um when I worked on um a pilot for a show that didn't end up coming out, but it was a big pilot, um and like like had like huge names attached to it. Um it was directed by uh Andy Machete, the guy who um did it 2017, yeah. Um so I was uh that was kind of when I decided, okay, I think this is this the the move here is to try to um transition to doing this professionally, and that's kind of what I've been doing since. I'd like to expand into doing other things in the industry,

4:06Shareum, but uh but right now I'm still acting. So that's kind of where I have to foothold. I've I've seen a couple of your uh your other you know notes in IMDB about you doing things like uh I think you're a gaffer and you did uh a soundtrack or something, which is cool. I mean, honestly, a lot of uh up-and-coming people, like I got a lot of friends that are in the industry. We we we got a friend down here, uh his name is Mark Dunlin, and he's a director, but he got started in electrical work in in the film world, and now he's like producing big movies and stuff. So good. Where whereabouts in the in the states are you guys? Uh close to Atlanta. unknown: Yeah. Yeah. In Georgia. Yeah, close to Atlanta.

4:44ShareOkay, okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, I to see a lot of people that want to make a career in the industry. Like obviously the the dream shot is being an actor or a writer or a director or something. But to have that fallback technical career, uh, I see a lot more people having that as well. Is that kind of something similar that you're playing both safe on both sides kind of thing? Yeah. Um, so I went to film school um and uh like good film production. I I produced like uh I produced like a pro wrestling show in our like live TV thing, and I think I reward for it. Yeah. All right, Mitch. Take your questions to the end. Um and uh so so like I I'd like to work on those things. Um where I'm really kind of specimen into is my is writing.

5:32ShareUm like I want I've I've uh got this feature which is just about done now. I'm just making a couple of like last little changes to it and then I'm gonna start trying to pitch it around. Um hopefully you'll have some good news about that and then you're distant, but you know, it's uh it it's quite quite an uphill battle. Um and uh but yeah, like I I've worked in all kinds of things. Like I've I've worked in sound, I've boom opt a bunch of times. I wanted to really spec into um sound uh editing, like post-production sound. Really? Um because I really have a lot of fun doing that stuff. Foley, you know. Yeah. Um full foley is really fun. Um but uh I started working on the way home when it came time

6:13Shareto like be able to like get the the schooling in that area. So um I just missed like I was just away from school way too much to be able to do it. And uh and then I wasn't filming in my second semesters, but the second semester you needed to take a sound class. First semester, so I never ended up getting to it. So I'm kind of self-teaching right now. Like um uh I've been working it um with logic a lot recently. Um because I can't I can't do pro tools, I just can't do it. Uh I can't do it. Um but uh I'm an Adobe person, so I I I understand. Yeah. Um so uh anyway, I I've um I I like working in film. I like helping on my friends' films, I like writing films, I like I I just enjoyed that world. Yeah, that's pretty sweet.

7:00ShareUm, you know, the like that's kind of the culture for film nowadays. It used to be even just like 15, 20 years ago, used to be, you know, you just show up on set, you start throwing some cable around, and eventually you'll you'll get a job as a gaff or or or something like that, some grip or something. And nowadays it's like, hey, we're all everybody's doing small projects. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, and you know, hopefully one of your guys' projects take off and you everybody remembers everybody. So hopefully that's absolutely well you know, one of one one of the best um the best films to work on, I find, are when you have a experienced team who's been working for a long time, who's making something out of out of pocket, essentially,

7:44Sharewith their their friends and people they're tight with. That's a passion project. I've done a lot of those. Um those are my favorites. And you can always tell like when it's like uh um a short of kind of more amateur people versus short of like very experienced people, um, who don't need to be doing these smaller things, but they're doing it because they love it. Um so yeah, those that's that's the work to work in. So I'm I'm quite glad that the industry has kind of moved into that direction, at least. I think everybody like back, you know, you look at obsession and backrooms and all these other small movies, the paranormal activities of today. Like all these low budget movies that are that are just crushing

8:19Shareit the box office. I think it's the way that you know the future is going. And eventually everybody can, you know, with the responsible help of AI, can have uh, you know, their own stance at being a contender if they're educated and artistic enough. So yeah, I I too went to film school and uh for me it wasn't a complete waste of time, but uh I learned a lot more from the experience of being on set and interacting with people that have the various uh stories to tell of their job and whatever they did, you know, working in a movie. Um would you say that's the same, or do you think that film school helped you out tremendously? Were people kind of bitter? You know, uh when you go to a film uh set today and they hear

9:07Sharethat you're like the snobby film school kid, you know, is that a thing? Because I've had that movie for to me. Oh never. Um well, I I think uh definitely nothing is better than actually being on set. Right. Um like there's no better education than you can you can get than actually being there. Um so a lot of like I'm gonna say the more practical stuff going to film school was or at least maybe figuring out just what the vibes are on set. Like I was already pretty familiar with that. Um the things well the main reason I went was because I was like, I want to meet people who have similar interests and people who I want to make things with, right? Like like build a a community of of filmmakers and people

9:49Shareinterested in film and stuff. Um what I did learn that I didn't think would grab me as much as it did was I learned a lot about um like the history of experimental film. Um and uh the that I think has actually informed a lot of what I do with my project now more than probably anything else I learned in film school. And I kind of like when I went into film school, I was like, I I I don't the degree doesn't really matter to me. Like that's not why I'm coming here. Um and then I ended up coming around to it really hard. And I was like, I think they were right when they were like this is really important that you learn these things and you learn about these people and where some of these ideas come

10:38Sharefrom. Um and uh Yeah, I think and I and just kind of the the mindset around it, which I'm gonna quote my professor. He said, like, don't look at these films as like a puzzle to be solved. That's not the point here. There's there's just just take it for what it is at face value, kind of. Um just experience it. And I think that that I've taken with me into like a lot of ways. Uh yeah, I think that that's probably the most um artistically helpful thing that kind of came from it. I really liked the the live TV stuff as well. Um I learned that I just really, really, really like doing live TV stuff and just doing stuff live as well. Yeah, um, well, I mean that's why I you know I did my my that that pro wrestling show.

11:23ShareUm we did that live. Um but uh but yeah, um I I with that being said, if you want to learn how to work in film, you want to learn how film is and how sets work, you gotta be on a set. Yeah. Go to like like um work as a background actor or something. Just get on a set. Well, yeah, you were talking about experimental film. I'm kind of you know dumb when it comes to this kind of stuff. What do what does that mean? French experiments. Uh so i experimental film basically would be like um in the early days of film, like like right at the beginning of the Soviet Union and stuff, um, you know, to kind of Russian experiment. Yeah, like well, I mean, the thing at the time though is the the line between just what film was and what experimental film

12:07Sharewas gets kind of blurry because people were still figuring out the medium. Um and uh what's um what's the film that would jump jump to mind? Um what's that Russian film? That Russian film I'm thinking of with all the traffic. Um with all the traffic. Yeah, it's like an hour of just chaos and traffic, and people don't understand it, but it's actually a big all the car chases now to play homage to it. Um yeah, I mean that's a perfect example, right? Um, let's jump forward a little bit to like the the 60s um uh Jordan Belson's work. Um he did he made a lot of like really, really weird um films where it he was just kind of playing with light and creating like these really hypnotic patterns and stuff, and he was

12:55Sharelike making his own music too, which was also some of the most some of the early this is what I wrote my thesis on, I guess, was um the fact that he was kind of working in a lot of these films, they were developing ambient music before that kind of was uh a a genre that had been coined. Um that kind of would come along with like Brian Eno's like um music for airport, stuff like that. But they were making, and and so I was trying to figure out how people were making this music um before, and that's what I was trying to do, was figure out the machinery and stuff that they were using. But anyway, Jordan Belson, um, he was actually offered to work on um 2001's uh Space Odyssey, uh Stanley Kubrick, um for the

13:36Sharethe sequence where you know all the lights are coming at the camera and he's like I I they're they're in Jupiter or something, I think. Um and uh trying to I'm trying to remember. Um it was it's been it's been a while. Um but uh they offered him to do that and he said no. So I can't remember who they did get to do it, but it it's the whole that whole sequence was entirely inspired by like Belton's work. Yeah um and so much of uh um what was another example or um Is it Arthur Flitwick? Um anyway, uh uh a gentleman uh his film was called Very Nice, Very Nice, and that um film basically got him booked in Hollywood for making like trailers and stuff. Like everybody wanted this guy to make their trailers because

14:23Shareof his tight editing style. Um Bruce Connor uh like he's considered to be the father of the music video. Um the way that like the the montage works and a lot of like his music videos that he made would um you know the really common out loud off the top of my head, a lot of the montages in Breaking Bad totally, totally are like in Bruce Connor's wheelhouse. Um so so like it yeah, tons of like you said, a lot of these films um are kind of like the Bible for for how you shoot certain things in Hollywood or other films or whatever, like like they a lot of these techniques that we kind of take for granted now came from people just experimenting with their cameras and figuring these things out. Yeah, okay.

15:06ShareYeah. Uh I took a a couple classes in uh film theory and uh I thought it was gonna be boring. Honestly, just to see like it it is a peak behind the curtain for modern film because like when you study enough film to know like the precursors and what these uh like you said, the montages or whatever mean, you know, in a in a uh in in blocking a scene or setting up a scene, it's kind of like uh a foreshadow. So you know like things that are gonna happen to story beforehand because everybody you know does the building blocks of uh they're they're staying on the on the on the shoulders of giants, so to speak, when it comes to making a film. So it's a gift and a curse. So learning a lot about film.

15:52ShareBut uh yeah, so cool. It sounds like you're very educated and you have like uh great aspirations to you know develop your own stories. It you said you wrote a feature script or are currently finishing one. Is this your first writing? Uh so when I was 15, I started writing uh a season of a show um which was set during the outbreak of World War One, like right, right, right at the beginning, like August 1914, September 1914. Um it was 13 episodes. It was uh the German perspective through like the invasion of Belgium, then down to France, and getting stopped at the Battle of the Marne, and then moving up and digging in as the race of the sea occurs. Um and uh and then getting stuck in a trench warfare.

16:36ShareAnd uh it was like this piece um, you know, covering that happening, but also like kind of examining just like this this the the the background, this like twisted relationship um that this character kind of had with her mother um and like trying to deal with that now in this place. Um and uh yeah, it was about a thousand pages. Um it was I mean it was 13 episodes, so it wasn't so the thousand pages isn't that crazy, but um it was uh it was a lot of writing. Um and I'm planning on kind of revisiting this idea and making changes to it because this this like I had aspirations for this to be a five season show. Yeah, yeah. And like this would be like a$15 million per episode show. Like just like this this this would be so expensive.

17:23ShareIt's not impossible something like that could be made, but it's a little bit of like it like I don't know. I think it would be a hard sell for someone who's not like super duper duper veteran into like the writing aspect of the industry. So I've kind of like used my my learned wisdom through my additional 10-ish years of life. Um and uh have kind of altered the idea and I think improved it, and I'm gonna get started on that the end of this year, like trying to, you know, build build a new pilot. Kind of I I I have some ideas, but this feature is the first feature that I've finished. Oh, okay. I've started a lot of other features, um, and then but but but they all kind of like like I had the whole thing,

18:05Sharebut it wasn't as clear. This was a really like I've been really into like 90 minute movies recently. Um I love a long movie, but I also really like like like make something short, tight, and sweet and like to the point. Make it move, make it move. Yeah, exactly. Like don't, don't, don't, let's not, let's not like uh trip over our heels here. Let's just keep the story moving. Um and that's kind of what it's been, and I think it's probably the best thing I've written so far. Um I'm really excited about it. Um I have a lot of faith in it, which obviously, you know, like I've worked on it, so you'd hope you'd hope I'd have faith in it, but I I do have a lot of faith in it. Um hopefully I can have some good news to share about that in

18:45Sharethe near distant future, but we'll uh we'll see. Uh I've I've written a couple of things, they never amounts to anything. Yeah, but uh you know, everybody that you show it to says it's great and nothing happens. So hopefully you you have better friends than I'm than mine. So yeah, I mean that's it, that's the advantage of working in the business, right? Is you know people. Um and and you you do have some in. Somebody knows somebody. Um, I like last year um I was working on I got really into sitcoms and I wrote a sitcom pilot and I like drafted a bunch of other sitcom pilots and stuff. Um and uh I I had things ready to kind of I'm gonna say pull the trigger, not pull the trigger and get it made, but

19:21Sharepull the trigger and like getting it into rooms with people and stuff, and then um didn't end up working out, but uh but you know what? That's the business, right? You never know. Yeah, I mean yeah, you could hold on to it for a couple of years and put it back out there and somebody find it and want to have it. So yeah. There you go, right? Yeah. Do you do a lot of circuit work, like uh film uh festival stuff? Um I haven't really. I probably should. Probably should. Um, like I uh the most interaction that I've had with like film festivals here is basically being in things and going to see the the screenings for them. Um so I went to uh I um my favorite thing that I've been was uh a short directed by Connor Jessup called Julian and

20:07Sharethe Wind. Julian and the Wind. I shouldn't I shouldn't swallow the name. Um it's uh it's really good. It's about I want to say like a 10-minute short. Um maybe a little bit longer. Um shot it on 16 mil. Um looks great. Um big fan. Um I did that and then I did another film called Do Uth Part, which I really, really loved. Um that's one of my favorite like shooting experiences, because that was one of those like um very experienced team. Uh um very experienced team doing a film as a passion project. Um yeah, that's that's kind of been my extent with that. The thing is, like, I'm not good at making shorts. Like I'm like I I kind of like I I start making a short and then it kind of just turns into a bigger idea, and it's pretty

20:59Sharehard to like make a feature, you know, you know what I mean? But I have friends who who have great ideas for shorts. Like it just it clicks with them a lot better. Um so so I help them with with those. Um and we'll see if some of those get into to festivals sometime soon. Um it just means you have a bigger creative mind than what you can put in a short, you know, that's all. Yeah, yeah, sure. We'll we'll call it that. We'll call it that. Yeah, the the friends that I know that do pretty successful short work, um they they focus more on concept shorts. Like they want to really uh tell a horror scene, uh like the the concept of uh something scary happening. And something like a a guy breaks into a house or something

21:41Sharelike that. It's just something quick and easy. And uh they they keep it really choppy and and small, but they really tell the cinematic value of what they can portray in that book. Yeah. So um so y actually it's funny you say that. I had an idea recently um for the the you know, my new idea for that world war one thing. I was like, I think that I could sell a decent concept short for that. If I could if I could put that together. And I have a friend who's made something in a similar style. And I'm like, I should probably link it, link up with him and work on doing that. But I'm like, I gotta work on this feature first. But that's how you're absolutely right. Like that is I think a lot of a lot of what short work is is

22:22Sharelike you you have to be very okay with making something very minimalist. Yeah. 100%. And and and okay with the limitations within that. But the limitations I think end up giving way to some of the more most interesting things that you can do because you know limitations for creativity and all that fun stuff. Yeah you're absolutely right. Maybe I'm old school too, but I always look at shorts like uh con uh like we said a concept, but also kind of like a uh um you know like a a a piece for your Bible for your pitch. Like this is what it could look like, you know, when you if you got enough money to make a feature. Yeah. Cool. So you uh you have obviously varying uh experiences on film stats uh you you talked a lot about these passion projects you

23:14Shareknow some of these uh I would assume you're kind of flying by the feet of your pants you don't know if there's uh funding till you know the the the rap day all these other kind of stuff then you've been on Uni Bomber you know a Netflix impact movie that's got obviously a a good enough budget to get Russell Crowe on it or something like that. So what like what would be an example or what would be your favorite form of production? Kind of more of the loose fly by the sea of your pants sets where you know each day people are figuring out or did you like the more strict regimented kind of more big studio Netflix stuff? It it's got to be the loose flying by the sea of your pants like it's there's there's a lot more um not to say

23:55Sharethere isn't love behind like these bigger productions but the love is a lot more tangible in the smaller productions because you're so in like like you're in the trenches um with everybody um all the time. Whereas like you know uh Unibomber like was a really um I'm mechanical sounds like a pus down like like is it what but it was uh it was everything was a moving part on Unibomber. Um so for example I'm flown in it once somebody isn't needed they're flown out um you're you're kept there about as long as you need to be um but at the same time they're like it's important to have you on hand so for example with Unibomber like I I didn't shoot for that many days but I was in Montreal shooting for about three weeks.

24:41ShareOh wow they just they just had me hanging out um which was lovely for me. Like a a a vacation basically um but uh the like you know I I didn't meet like a ton of the the the cast unless I had like direct contact with them. Right. Because it's just it's that like you're you're there when we need you to be there, you're gone when you're not um whereas like and and and that's not that's not like every like super big budget production like um you know I worked on the way home for years um and I I did get to meet everybody um with time although because that was a time travel show and there's a bunch of different timelines going on. It's weird that like you would end up meeting people from the other timelines and it's like you've been on a totally

25:26Sharedifferent show. Um because uh you know everybody's had their own experiences and whatnot um and mem memories and stuff with each other that you weren't there for. But yeah um it it's it I I guess like those smaller productions um you feel like you're part of the team invested more and less like a cog in the machine. Yeah. Yeah in both things you're a you're a piece of the puzzle but you're but but but everybody has more agency in a smaller thing. Yeah I got friends that have uh gone to sets like the the passion project so to speak and everybody gets a copy of the script because you know who cares if information gets out you know nobody nobody knows what's going on. But I I would imagine for the bigger set stuff you only get

26:12Sharethe the the portions of the script that you're allowed to have for your character. It depends. On Unibomber I got the whole script but I uh I would say most of the time you get the whole script um if you're actually working on something I have worked on things though uh actually I'm working on a show right now where I'm just kind of getting bits and pieces um but uh yeah it it it depends it depends I would say most of the time even with the big stuff though you get the uh the whole script I think if it was something that was part of a franchise like let's say let's say um I I was shooting uh a a marble thing down there in Atlanta with you guys um and uh I'm sure unless I had a really big role maybe like Tom Holland gets sick and they need a new

26:57ShareSpider-Man or something um like like yeah I volunteer I volunteer yeah you know what I I I'll consider it I'll consider playing Spider-Man um but uh I if something like that happened I I feel like you know with a smaller role you'd probably just get what you're doing. I know with video game work also um you really you get almost nothing you get exactly what they need you to say in the microphone or exactly the scene they need in a mocap you don't know what the context is you don't know who the main character is um that happens a lot um so it it depends it depends yeah yeah video games is tough because they don't know what the characters are going to be doing you know closer to when the game goes gold because they they change everything all the

27:45Sharetime so yeah well I I had a question for you know since you've been a reoccurring character on a TV series and you've done movies how do you kind of adjust your character when you have to be the same character you know week after week after week as opposed to being a character for a single movie. It's called acting. Well I I know this is cool but I want to know how he does it. I think like if you're um working on a series I I every character you do kind of like embeds itself into your psyche a little bit. And a lot of the characters will kind of like let's say you know I'm doing a new character or whatever I'm like the a lot of the elements from a previous character will probably come out into that one and you'll kind of mix and match and stuff.

28:29ShareBecause at the end of the day like any character you play um you're bringing a part of yourself to it. Like to an extent it is it is you're just kind of playing pretend as whatever portion of yourself is is needed for the scene. But uh I I think like working on a series well I'll I'll I'll put it this way uh my first scene on season two of The Way Home. So it's been about half a year since I've shot um and uh this is when I was a bit younger so happy year felt longer than it does now. Um as I'm sure will continue to be the case as I as my life goes on. Um and uh it so so it was I had a bit of like God like I kind of gotta slip back into this and and it's something that I spent so much time in for so long I I didn't know how easy it would be

29:18Shareand it was like putting on a glove. I love that fit. Um and uh yeah it just you just kind of comes back to you. Um you always kind of remember you can keep it inside. Um other than that I would say the biggest like difference like this isn't so much a character thing but um working on a show uh you what what I always find happens when you work on a movie is that the crew working together doesn't find they don't find their synergy until about the last week of shooting. Yeah um and then and then and then it's over right uh but a series you you hit that after about a month or two months and then you've got a whole bunch of months in front of you so then you just got good work out of the way and then right at the

30:04Shareend everybody just yes out really hard. Yeah. Because everyone's like we're so done with this we're so done with this I can imagine. But yeah. unknown: Okay. I can imagine uh did you come from a school of acting or did you just kind of like uh you know yourself taught you know um um I I guess I mean uh i like a little bit of both I didn't go to like an art school I just went to like a plain Jane high school um and uh I didn't like really engage in any of like the acting programs there. I did two drama classes um but uh which were fun I liked those um but I did do training I did workshops and um I trained with like a co I have a coach now who before almost all of my auditions I'll send him a script do whatever we book

30:55Shareabout 20 to 30 minutes. We go over we find the beats of the sneeze we figure out what the journey is together and like I can't like like like a lot of that stuff I can still we can do by myself at this point but it helps to have somebody who thinks about that all day every day as a coach how and and like his advice is great. A lot of times I'm like he he'll be like what if what if you just do that there I'm like that's so that's so smart. That's so smart. That's why we pay you the big buck. So uh it it's always good to have a coach and to work with somebody. Um but like I mean for example my audition for Unibomber like I did that one myself just because I was like I can see like it's it's very easy for me to see what the journey is in these

31:37Sharescenes and what the what the beats are. So I just did that one myself. But yeah I I I do train but I didn't go to an acting school. Okay. That's interesting. Uh I you know most of the people that we talk to are are self-taught. We've we've had a couple that gone to like I think one dude went to Juilliard. Um you know uh but like um most people don't talk about their coaches so and I that's an interesting aspect to kind of have a perspective uh of the script and you as an actor that's you know completely neutral uh you know that you're paying them to tell you if you're not good at it or what you can do better or you know so that's uh that's that's pretty smart I never I never really thought about that to be honest

32:23Sharewith you. Yeah I mean and you know it just it just helps to like have somebody to discuss what you know I I worked on a film this summer with somebody who owns an acting studio here in the the the GTA um and she was like I don't want people to think that they need us because they don't it's just helps to have somebody to converse with it about. And the acting schools down here would have the exact opposite big money and have to be a part of your whole journey. Well yeah I mean to have one person that's not biased they're they're not trying to butter you up to you know to make you feel better. They won't they want you to succeed but they they're gonna tell you what you need to know to succeed.

33:03ShareSo exactly exactly yeah um no that's that's also that's part of the reason why I didn't get like super into like an acting school or whatever is um they can get a little bit culty. Yeah yeah I'm sure I'm sure you guys are familiar um and uh and I I'm just not here for that so well that's good I honestly I don't know if it's like a can Canadian thing but like most people from Canada are pretty chill and just normal a lot of there's a lot of actors that we've met are kind of pretentious you know especially from I don't know New York. But uh so I don't know what's up with that if that's like uh you know they they went to the special school or whatever but yeah it's possible I mean I don't know people think I I found uh I find Canada is kind of a mix there's

33:47Shareuh we're we're definitely not as nice as the as the reputation kind of would lend itself to like I went to New York for the screening for Unibomber and I was shocked because I hadn't been outside of Canada for a long time I was shocked by how nice everybody was in New York in New York yeah like people are like really polite and really nice there at least and and people were like what are you talking about when I tell people from New York that um and I'm like but Toronto's like it's a mean place. He's not here today but he's from New York and he's not the nicest person on the world. Okay okay he'll tell you exactly what he thinks A V asking you a million questions about hockey right now so yeah

34:30Sharewell I I'm not the person not the person to be able to tell him unfortunately good good you did good missing. All right uh cool so Unibomber is obviously like your biggest thing that's out now um have you I'm sure you've seen it you saw you saw at the at the premiere and all that um like what what have you been hearing about it? I I watched it I thought it was really good and I just wanted to know what like what's like the inside take on it um well you know a lot of uh a lot of like friends and family have been uh been watching it they've been they've been chime chiming in and um talking about it it seems to be like like it's it's being overall positively received I mean like it's it's uh it's run um uh you know number one on Netflix I think in

35:18Sharethe States for I think it still is I know it's dropped down to about number five in Canada now but it's it's held that top spot for a while. So uh people seem to be liking it. That's good. Yeah for sure. Now question are you the ladies' man that you are in the movie? Well all right hold on um I my initial my initial reaction was to be like no I don't think so and but but you know what um I'm gonna take that uh no no I think uh final answer no I don't think so you got like a girlfriend on screen going no get a girlfriend or something I think I'm a a profoundly um I think I'm a profoundly awkward person who's very good at pretending that that I'm not awkward. Well that's what makes a great actor so yeah I'm

36:11Sharejust awkward and pretend not to be awkward but I still am you know yeah all right well uh what uh you are you you said you're working on a TV show right now besides your own personal product projects like uh what are you working on right now? Um can't say unfortunately I'd love to um it's something it's something it's something cool it's something cool we won't tell anybody recording yeah um it's something cool and uh hopefully I'll have more to say about it as time goes on. They're kind of figuring out um how much of a role I'm gonna play in this show. Okay. Um chat with them a bit no I'm not dead um they're uh they're they're they're trying to figure out like I think they're they're they're kind of vibe checking me a

36:58Sharelittle bit uh I'm on a show that's been running that are like they're on their their um their second season right now um and I think they're kind of vibe checking me to see like how I get on with the crew how I get on with the other casts and stuff to see kind of what they're gonna do with me. Because there's like pot like there's potential to have me around for like a while and there's potential to not so we'll see. Just buy a big pizza one day. Yeah and get them make sure everybody has coffee. Just brought it up what's nice I already know a lot of the the the crew on that so I'm like there's some that's the thing with working up here too is you run into a lot of the same people. Yeah um because it's uh it's it's a bit of a smaller world

37:36Shareand the further north you go a smaller it gets. But yeah um uh yeah yeah that that that's what I'm working on. I did a film this summer which that one I can't talk about it's called Killer Be Killed um coming out probably early summer next year. Uh very excited for this movie. Um I I I hung out on set a lot when I wasn't filming because it was just that kind of film um where everyone was tight. Killer Be Killed so I got to watch a lot Killer Be Killed so I got to watch them shoot a lot of it uh it looks great. It looks so good. I'm really excited I hope it turns out well is it theatrical or is it gonna come streaming I don't know um they're they're they're figuring it out there I I'm leaning

38:17Sharetheatrical oh wow okay but we'll see yeah we'll see we'll have to get you back on after it comes out so well I would love to I'm kind of like the uh the the social media stalker out of the our group here so I've kind of looked at your Instagram and had a couple questions for you. What is a colossal weight water drinking champion? Well you see I used to I used to drink a lot of water because I I used to fight um like I was I was kickboxing and stuff. I'll solve that too yeah very hard to try very hard to stay hydrated and I think uh at the most that I drank I was doing about five to six liters a day which I don't know what that is in uh in in freedom unit it sounds like 60 gallons I don't know yes I'm a billion gallons um but uh uh I uh and I'm not a

39:07Sharebig guy I'm a I'm a little guy so that was a lot of water for me um but uh yeah that that's that's that's what that meant I'm like I'm you know I stay hydrated you're like you're that guy that can eat like a box of donuts and a whole thing of tacos and not you know not gain an an ounce. Yeah yeah that's that's that's me my my dad my dad was the same way too um this weights but you know what's I can yeah well see I'm I'm keeping that in mind I was like the the the fighting was good because like I learned to cut weight and get like really strict about my diet and stuff. Um because I had to no I'm not a b a big guy but I had to drop about 10 pounds in like two months. See I walk past an MM and I just blow up you know um so I like

39:50Sharemind you a little bit of that was water cutting but uh most of it was just like doing a ton of cardio and just like not eating very much. But um anyway I so I'm like I'm like okay when when 30 comes I can yeah I can I I have the skills up here. It's not gonna be totally alien to me. Yeah then you wake up and you just hurt especially with that fighting oh yeah been there been there you know what's crazy? Yeah well it's because like I was fighting um I was gonna have a fight and then I got concussed um in training like two weeks before and I was like okay I'm gonna pull out of the fight and I was like maybe I should think about not doing this anymore. But I did like a whole month like I was training so hard I

40:28Sharewas training so hard I took one bad step in the kitchen and like hyperextended my left knee. There it goes and it's never been and I was like I did a whole camp totally fine. Yeah. And then and then one bad step in the kitchen and my knees just ruined forever. When you least expect it like it gets worse. Yeah exactly it gets worse when you take a weird sneeze and your whole week is ruined and just said you're good for the sneezes. Yeah said you do fighting what kind of fighting like what kind of martial arts did you study or did you just um so I was I was kickboxing um so kind of like kickboxing slash Muay Thai um although I only competed in kickboxing I trained at Muay Thai gyms um that was what I liked the most I did a

41:10Sharebit of jujitsu and a bit of wrestling um I never competed in those because I was as as a little guy it's harder to like kind of gauge how good you are um because you're usually going to be training with people bigger than you and also way better than you. So every now and then there will be someone who's around the same size as you and about the same skill level and say okay actually I'm not half bad but it was really hard to gauge just kind of like where I stood. Whereas with striking like like uh like like with the kickboxing or mow tie or whatever um I was able to be like okay actually like this clicks with me really easily because the thing is you can you could spar a dude who's like got even a hundred pounds

41:56Shareon you and like win. Now obviously if you fought he would he would he would destroy me. Right. But but when you're sparring you're like you're not trying to like like like murder the the kid who looks like a 15 in the gym right? Exactly so so like I was like I was quick and I was I was I was pretty good um but uh that was kind of why I transitioned to that but but yeah I can grapple like I the that was my party trick for a while was um was like I could outgrapple people with like like literally a hundred pounds on me more actually um and uh and and that so anyway it was a fun little party trick so I don't know if I can do that anymore I'm I'm pretty out of shape now but that's what when I was in

42:38Sharehigh school I did wrestling and I I was like in the unlimited class but I weighed 230 and like the cutoff was like 225. Couldn't get below that so I was wrestling guys that weighed like 280 and 300 so 2280 like big big boys yeah yeah Mitch is sitting on a park bench right now 300 pounds yeah yeah that's pretty cool that you have uh like I mean you can take a hit so like are you thinking about that as far as uh choreography for for film and stuff too like absolutely yeah well you know I I actually did choreography for a bunch of friends uh short films and stuff like by choreography um and like teaching people how to like fall safely and like like that kind of stuff. Um that was you know we we we keep coming back to

43:22Sharethis pro wrestling show. I I like did all the choreography for that although that's like obviously ridiculous and not like actual fighting. But uh it helped that I had two really athletic guys um doing it. But anyway um yeah fighting for cameras completely yeah totally um but but yeah like if I have to do choreography or whatever um on a shoot like it's pretty I don't know I usually like if I tell the stunt guy I'm like oh like I have like like martial arts experience they're like okay this is we'll have an easier time with it this this then okay cool that's nice. Yeah. Yeah as long as you're not like well this is how we did it and you know master kin kin school yeah no none of that none of that all right um i I do

44:09Shareremember my my my my big flex was uh um on uh on the way home like in season two I have to like punch a hole through the wall and uh the stunk corner was like oh your hands are gonna be hurt your hands gonna be hurting hands gonna be hurting for like you know whatever like nah got that knuckle alignment that knuckle the wrist alignment straight through that that that thing and uh you're all good don't worry we can we'll just make him take hot sauce if you can uh that's a thing we do on our podcast don't worry about that um okay okay uh yeah cool so uh all right Mitch has a bunch of wrestling questions he wants to ask you so I'll just I don't have a bunch but since you said you like pro wrestling do you do you watch wrestling uh I

44:51Sharedon't I didn't actually even discover it until I was much older um because my parents were always like yeah my parents were always like that's really they're they're they're like that's dumb don't watch that your parents raised you right that's hate and then and then I yeah and then and then I was like I think I was like twenty nineteen or twenty when I started like watching like the the old ones um online like basically what you could just find online but like you know the golden era of of of like like like w w w I was like this is so funny like this show this this shows like I was like this is this is like exactly up my alley theater like this is this is so dope. Well it's just a fun kind of sit and like mindless

45:33Sharejust watch what's going on can relax. Yeah exactly uh I I I remember the clip that kind of sold me on it is um if if you're a fan you might know this um but Buddy like puts like a like a like a sock on his hand which is like a snake oh mankind yeah and the other dude's playing playing the playing the flute to try to like get the snake and turn it back on him oh it's the Santino Morello is that is that the is that the one I I saw anyway that that clip kind of went viral like a few years ago and I was like this I was like why how have I never watched this before? This is so funny. Um so so I got really into it uh for that that little period but um it's gonna like messed up with like it's corrupting all

46:16Shareyour elite film knowledge you're gonna start making trash now don't do it don't do it yeah well well you know what I I I I I do like a bit I I do like a good bit of trash I can't lie. I guess I really does yeah um but anyway yeah it was it was cool and I was feeling very inspired and it kind of uh coincided with with the live TV program um at my uh in school so uh I I pitched it and we did it and uh I ended up getting reimbursed because I I paid for like a lot of lot of crap out of pocket. Um and they were and they kept being like you don't have to like the president was like you don't have to do this. I'm like you don't understand you don't understand the show needs to be great. The show needs to be great.

46:58ShareSo I bought a lot of stuff uh and then I ended up winning an award for it so I got reimbursed I didn't did not expect to get that money back but uh but but it worked out yeah that's a nice feather in your hat you know so yeah yeah well cool man uh hey it's really interesting to talk to you and to see your journey to where you're at now um before I you know ask my last question Mitch did you have any other questions no no I asked my uh my question about his colossal weight uh drinking champions you get your dissertation on wrestling if you ever have any questions about wrestling he's the guy you want to talk to okay noted I'll watch that in mind I've been watching it since I was little is yeah is uh there anything that you want

47:44Shareto talk about anything that you need to plug I know we've already kind of talked about about Unibomber and other things so um I think uh the only thing I will unplug is just like for for for any viewers of the show go follow my Instagram um that's the only social I have it's the only one that I I care about um which which you see if I care about I should probably post on it more but I'm I'm working on it um yeah uh check out my Instagram I post like pictures that I take that I like and music that I like um a lot of music content on there um you sure you want to give out your phone number you know we can get everybody to call you that way oh oh yeah yeah no it's uh um sure five five five but uh yeah um working on an album maybe in

48:31Sharethe distant future that'll be done and uh and I can plug that but um we're we're we're we're chugging along through logic right now trying to trying to make that work and get the the production right what's your band called I don't know I'd I'd find like it's just because it's just me um um like I like I have friends who do music stuff but this is just like and and I've worked it down a little bit but this is just um it's just my thing I don't know maybe I'll maybe it'll be a self-title like like just my name Deadmouth maybe I'll call it something else I really don't know yeah okay yeah dad I'll um Deadmouth the band um that's what we'll call it um what kind of music yeah uh it's like uh it's like alt post rock stuff um like like

49:16Sharelike alt rock post rock um it's uh kind of floating without like a really strong label right now because there's a couple of like black metalied elements to it um but not like that much I would say post rock's probably the strongest um label that I could give it that's crazy so you can act produce direct and do the music you don't you don't even need people um can you be the your own cameraman too I mean there we go um well uh you're assuming any of these things will turn out well uh it's better than what I could do I could pretend that much I was gonna think positive yeah so but anyway that's yeah that's it just check out my Instagram okay all right well Mr. David Webster it was a pleasure talking to you and uh I hope you

50:06Sharedon't stay uh you you're not a stranger to us now so I hope you it stays that no no absolutely I I had a great time it was a good this is a dope show yeah the best of your three interviews today correct well I yeah well I I enjoyed the show quite thoroughly okay I'll take it a C interview C plus is passed but yeah when uh you can announce some of the cooler stuff you got coming out next year and especially if it's a theatrical release and or even on streaming we're we'd love to have you back. Kill or be killed and uh go Steam on Unix. Absolutely yeah yeah so thank you Mr David Webster